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“Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid”

Feb 22, 2010 at 4:54pm | Filed Under “Hollywood History Showdown: Films

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
The year was 1969, an age of rebellion—when villains could be heroes, and do-gooders were rejected by a progressive generation with a thirst for freedom. It was the year of EASY RIDER, MIDNIGHT COWBOY, and the classic buddy western, BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID.
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“Apollo 13”

Feb 22, 2010 at 4:25pm | Filed Under “Hollywood History Showdown: Films

Apollo 13
Less than a year after Apollo 11 introduced a world where man had walked on the moon, NASA was far from finished sending its finest back, even if the rest of civilization was losing interest. In 1995, the world took interest again in the space program, thanks to Ron Howard and Brian Grazer's APOLLO 13.
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“All the President's Men”

Feb 22, 2010 at 4:16pm | Filed Under “Hollywood History Showdown: Films

All the President's Men
When Carl Berstein and Bob Woodward set out to investigate the Watergate burglary, they had not a clue what they were about to uncover. In Alan J. Pakula’s film, he and writer William Goldman adapted the reporters’ groundbreaking book of their remarkable journey, which began with a few phone calls and simple questions, and culminated with the resignation of the President of the United States.
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  • TonyM
    09/18/2013 at 5:51pm

    TonyM

    I was a senior in high school, and was in the school library. An office worker ran in crying, saying that the president had been shot. Everyone was upset - and scared - and they let school out. We all went home and turned on the television. Everyone crowded around their televisions for hours, listening for anything they could learn about this tragic event!

    I had met President Kennedy (I was within six feet of him, anyway) the summer before he was elected President, and was amazed by his personal presence and charisma. Hearing that he had been assassinated was hard for me to believe.

    from Where Were YOU When Kennedy Was Shot?
  • BHiggins
    04/10/2012 at 7:31pm

    BHiggins

    JohnnyAppleseed,

    Yes, Rose COULD have survived.

    When 5th Officer Lowe went back for survivors, they found a Japanese man, thought to be dead, atop a floating door. Lowe, not at all fond of the Japanese ("...there's others better worth saving than a Jap!"), pulled the guy into the boat anyway. He was revived by a few of the other survivors, thawed a bit, shoved a weary sailor away from his position, took the sailor's oar, and rowed like a hero until they were picked up. Lowe later admitted, "I'm ashamed of what I said about the little blighter. I'd save the likes o' him six times over, if I got the chance."

    Rose's rescue may have been based on this account, which proved that there were bright spots emerging from the tragedy; it made at least one man a little less racist.

    from Titanic
  • laverge-01
    10/24/2011 at 8:00pm

    laverge-01

    As Dr. Turner mentions, Ed Steers's review in North & South magazine is a very accurate one. First, I believe that I am correct that it took all of six months to write this book. That is a very short time period when most reputable authors take years to research, check and double-check, undergo peer review, etc.

    I read the book and immediately noted that it is a patchwork quilt constructed of pieces of historical fabric taken from other authors' works. No footnotes, no acceptable chapter notes, no endnotes -- and the closest thing to a bibliography are notes at the end of chapters recommending other books to read for more informationl. At least most of the recommendations are good books.

    Unfortunately, there are quite a few errors, misconceptions, and innuendoes about the supposed "Stanton did it theory" that has been studied to death over the past seventy years and declared erroneous by very skillful researchers and authors.

    The book is an easy read and somewhat enjoyable to me when I wasn't counting errors and rolling my eyeballs! When I first heard that he was doing the book, I laughingly said that he was riding the coattails of The Conspirator movie. Guess who's featured on the front with Booth and Lincoln. Yep, Mary Surratt...

    Some people just know how to milk the golden cow.

    from Historians View the Assassination
  • Bellerphon
    08/28/2011 at 10:36pm

    Bellerphon

    The Runaway Scrape is an interesting topic and it usually only gets passing mention in Alamo movies. I think the old tv miniseries "True Women" that starred Dana Dulaney and a young Angelina Jolie probably showed it the most. The Texian settlers fleeing before Santa Anna's divided approaching army is high drama. There is the scholarly question was Sam Houston fleeing back to the U.S. for protection or was he strategically evading the Mexican army until a decisive opportunity opened up, which eventually did at San Jacinto.
    The Goliad massacre also is overshadowed by the Alamo movies since Colonel Fannin was supposed to lead his men to reinforce the Alamo but instead they were surrounded and defeated in battle then executed. That is also a neglected part of the War of Texas Independance.
    Another option could be the New Orleans Greys which was a two company volunteer battalion raised in New Orleans to go help the Texians. Tehy fought bravely through the carnage of the Alamo, Goliad, ect and by the time of the final battle of San Jacinto there were only six left to take revenge on the Mexicans.

    from The Best American History Movies NEVER Made
  • AStudentofHistory
    06/27/2011 at 1:09pm

    AStudentofHistory

    Merdale, (and by way of the footnote-Professor McPherson)

    1) You are correct about the War and Lincoln agrees with us in his Gettysburg Address
    2) Compromise was a the center in 1820, 1850, 1854, and finally Zachariah Chandler's "Blood Letter" was proof that the North was tired of insolent traitors dictating policy: "This is not a question of compromise. It is a question of whether we have a government or not. If we have a government then it is capable of making itself respected at home and abroad. If we have not a government, let this miserable rope of sand which purports to be a government perish … we are told six States have seceded, and the Union is broke up, and all we can is to send commissioners to treat with traitors with arms in their hands; treat with men who have fired upon your flag; treat with men who have seized your custom-houses, who have erected batteries upon your great navigable waters, and who now stand defying your authority …I will never live under a government that has not the powers to enforce its laws … This thing has gone far enough ... But, sir, when traitorous States come here and say, unless you yield this or that established principle or right, we will dissolve the Union, I would answer in brief words, “no concessions, no compromise; aye, give us strife unto blood before yielding to the demands of traitorous insolence. " William C. Harris, Ph.D., Public Life Of Zachariah Chandler, 1851-1875, (Lansing, Michigan: Michigan Historical Commission, 1917),”Facing Treason,” 192-193.

    from Slavery, race, and the assassination
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DelenaMae

DelenaMae

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  • Favorite figure in American History:

    Nellie Bly, Thomas Jefferson, Eleanor Roosevelt, Margaret Fuller, any and all of the cool ladies
  • If I could live in any period of American History:

    Progressive Era, but would like to visit every period
  • A bit about myself:

    I'm a Film and American History student. I love studying the Era of Revolution and the Early Republic, the Progressive Era, the 1960s--honestly, if it's interesting, I'm into it. I think film and history are the perfect combination.

    I hope to use various forms of storytelling (film being my preferred mode) to project history into the gaps of the present. I have an intense need to connect the past, present, and future.

    I want history to be six inches in front of my face, feeling the heat behind their passionate speeches or the blood from their vicious battles so that I can not only better understand the circumstances of a specific time, but understand the people as well. I even want to understand the seemingly insignificant, those who were not mentioned in any books or have their own Wikipedia page, because they are just as important as any king.

    I want history to live through reenactment, through film, through drama so that I can be there when Nicola Tesla presented his Tesla Coil and go on an adventure with Nellie Bly as she brought fiction to life when she traveled around the world in eighty days.

    Drama and history are the perfect combination because you can do that--you can rebuild the past in order to experience the fundamental qualities of the human condition: discovery, fury, passion, defeat, suffering, triumph. When that’s done, it won’t be some fact that people heard one time, but rather a story imprinted on our brains.
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